Witness My Fury

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  Stop and consider God

  by StopTheTears in

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  is there really a god?

  is there really a divine creator or did the universe around us just "evolve?

  " what an incredible thought to even imagine that there could be a supernatural being so powerful as to create a universe.

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  LOL outlawwilly. So true.

  StopTheTears, you ask us to stop and consider God. I'm asking you to stop and consider.... medication. Once you're stabilised then consider God again by reading the bible, not WTS propaganda.
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  can somebody shed some light on me?

  by psychiatric in

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  ill introduce myself.

  my name is darren, im 23 and live in england.. im having some problems with the "truth".. to start it off and to keep it as minimal as possible because i dont want to bore your minds, i was raised with my whole family as a roman catholic.. after moving around the world, even as far as new zealand, i got myself in a terrible way in guernsey channel islands.

  i met some old friends of mine who were into all sorts related to the "crime scene" and i got myself involved with drugs and the like.. i began a spiralling into depression and cutting my arms to feel alive.

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  Go with your doubts and gut feeling. Yes "the truth" has helped you recover yourself from a poor stuation, but that (and i think you know this) is not reason to feel obligation towards it. Do your research and make up yer mind for yourself.

  Lots on here like me wish we could have done that questioning and proper research many many years ago right at the start like you can and saved a wasted life. Unfortunately this is basically denied to any born in like me as we are indocrinated from birth that it is the truth so often just suppress any niggling doubts we have along the way. It's quite tragic now I look back on it. How can a teenager, or many others younger KNOW what they are committing to? Answer is they cant and we didnt.
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  An in depth examination of THE PYRAMID nonsense of C.T.Russell

  by Terry in

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  in ancient times the easiest way to measure things was to use the most convenient measuring tools available that anybody could afford to own: your own body parts!.

  yes, you could use your own foot to measure "feet".. .

  you could use the width of your thumb to measure an inch (call it by whatever name you like.).

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  Lars if you were taking the piss you'd be a very funny guy, ... but you're not are you, you are being deadly serious, ...which makes you sadly weird. And NO I can safely inform you you are not the messiah.

  Terry excellent stuff as usual.
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  607 wrong using ONLY the bible (and some common sense)

  by Witness My Fury in

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  if this has been covered before i apologise in advance.

  using only the bible and a bit of common sense.. ok, here goes:.

  do the "seventy years" count from jerusalems destruction or not?

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  Eggnog, the prophesy says they would serve neb his son and his grandson. The total reign length of neb and co until cyrus is 66 years if i remember right, thats without factoring Jerusalems destruction in his 18/19th year.

  So unless you're hiding some unseen babylonian tablets in your knickers that allow for any other consideration then there isnt even 70 years to play with in total let alone nearer 90 which would be required for a 70 period after Jerusalems destruction.
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  607 wrong using ONLY the bible (and some common sense)

  by Witness My Fury in

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  if this has been covered before i apologise in advance.

  using only the bible and a bit of common sense.. ok, here goes:.

  do the "seventy years" count from jerusalems destruction or not?

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  Too true, but you need to jangle their cog disonance once in a while to shake them off that treadmill..
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  607 wrong using ONLY the bible (and some common sense)

  by Witness My Fury in

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  if this has been covered before i apologise in advance.

  using only the bible and a bit of common sense.. ok, here goes:.

  do the "seventy years" count from jerusalems destruction or not?

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  If this has been covered before i apologise in advance. Using ONLY the bible and a bit of common sense.

  OK, here goes:

  Do the "seventy years" count from Jerusalems destruction or not? What does the bible actually say...?

  Jeremiah makes the "seventy years" prophesy in the 1st year of Nebuchnezzar (4th year of Jehoiakim) according to Jeremiah chapter 25. That is 18 years BEFORE Jerusalems destruction!

  Jeremiah repeats Jehovahs statement about "seventy years" in his letter written to the exiles in Babylon taken under King Jeconiah (also known as Jehoiachin, Jehoiakims son), the letter was sent under king Zedekiah who was installed in his place and likely very early in his reign. Zedekiah reigned for 11 years before Jerusalems destruction.

  This is in Jeremiah chapter 29. This well before Jerusalems destruction and likely around 10 years before it. (Now I'm no grammatical expert but the english translation in the NWT also lends itself to a UNFOLDING and then CURRENT prophesy more than to a FUTURE event in my opinion, but maybe that's stressing it too far?)

  Now as Jeremiah is the ONLY one who was given this prophesy, it's kind of important to know when it was given. These are the ONLY references made to it in Jeremiah and neither is near the destruction of Jerusalem.

  Kind of makes you think doesnt it??

  Now Carl Olaf Jonson in The Gentile Times Reconsidered does the heavy lifting and demolishes 607 totally and full kudos goes to him for his excellent book, but we all know most Witnesses will stop reading and thinking the minute they detect any contrary viewpoint, so I wanted a way using ONLY the bible as a 1st step before unleasing the hounds on them.

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  If this makes no sense whatsoever here's why it is important:

  WTS teaches that this prophesy of the "seventy years" applies ONLY after the destruction of Jerusalem and it's temple (and govenor Gedaliahs murder to be precise).
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  Who here are from the UK??

  by watersprout in

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  just wondering!.

  peace sprout.

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  Wales here, or there,... depending on your perspective.
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  ...A suggestion for the Next Six Screens Interview..A Quadruple Bill..Lars,OBVES,Este and StopTheTears...

  by OUTLAW in

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  what would you think of an interview with 4 of the craziest people from jwn... lars,obves,este and stopthetears,all together,on one six screens show?...

  god only knows how many personalities each one of them have... rick could end up with 20 guests with only 4 bodies... .

  would lars,obves,este and stopthetears be willing to go on the six screens show?.

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  It would be great with them ending up arguing over which one of them is the messiah,... I was thinking about this yesterday and wondered why I've not seen Aguest and Lars slugging it out in a thread. Maybe it's happened and I missed it, but I cant recall Aguest even commenting in a Lars in wonderland thread. Point it out if i'm wrong though.

  Bring it on I say.
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  Everything i knew was wrong

  by StopTheTears in

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  looking through the internet i learned that everything i have ever know to be true is a lie at the beginning of time god and his celestial family created the earth and the heavens.

  they are the greater force and also the fallen angels that are prophesized in the bible.

  they sped up the evolution in people separating them from monkeys.

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  BTW my referring to it getting worse here as we near 2012 I was not talking about planet earth, ... I meant this forum, and that it would be increasingly populated by end time Jesus freaks giving their secret spiel to try and impress others and inflate their pathetic egos. Thus this forum will get "worse" in that those of a sane disposition will find it increasingly nauseating having to come here and look at this kind of gibbering drivel.

  There, is that clearer?

  Now go away and take your meds.
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  Everything i knew was wrong

  by StopTheTears in

  1. jw
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  looking through the internet i learned that everything i have ever know to be true is a lie at the beginning of time god and his celestial family created the earth and the heavens.

  they are the greater force and also the fallen angels that are prophesized in the bible.

  they sped up the evolution in people separating them from monkeys.

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  ( sighs ) ....I think it will get worse here as we near 2012...l